Legislature(2001 - 2002)

04/03/2002 08:08 AM House EDU

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SB  11-COMPULSORY SCHOOL ATTENDANCE/AK HISTORY                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR BUNDE  announced that the  next order of business  would be                                                               
CS  FOR SENATE  BILL NO.  11(FIN), "An  Act relating  to required                                                               
school attendance; and providing for an effective date."                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Number 1860                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GENE  THERRIAULT, Alaska State Legislature,  testified as                                                               
the  sponsor  of SB  11.    He  explained  that the  current  law                                                               
specifies that  education is  mandatory at  age seven.   However,                                                               
most people  in Alaska enroll their  child in first grade  at age                                                               
six.   Therefore, in many schools  there are one or  two children                                                               
who are  enrolled at age six  and the parents utilize  the school                                                               
as  a babysitter.    In  such cases,  the  child [often]  attends                                                               
school  sporadically, which  establishes a  dynamic in  which the                                                               
teacher spends  an inordinate amount  of time attempting  to keep                                                               
these children up with the rest  of the class.  He suspected that                                                               
in  such  a situation,  the  child  would  likely be  held  back.                                                               
Therefore, CSSB 11(FIN)  specifies that if one  chooses to enroll                                                               
his/her child  at age six, then  that will be the  compulsory age                                                               
for that  child.   "Once you've made  that decision,  then you're                                                               
going to have  to make a good  faith effort to get  that child to                                                               
school on  a regular basis,  and if  you don't, then  the truancy                                                               
laws would apply," he explained.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  BUNDE recalled  debate [regarding  legislation] to  reduce                                                               
the mandatory  education age to  six.  Among some  parents, there                                                               
was considerable  angst because they  felt that age six  was [too                                                               
young].   He asked if there  has been such testimony  in relation                                                               
to SB 11.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR   THERRIAULT   recalled   that  initially   SB   11   was                                                               
misunderstood because  some read  it to  require all  children to                                                               
attend public school.   Also, many people felt that  SB 11 merely                                                               
changed  the age  for  mandatory attendance  from  seven to  six.                                                               
Therefore, CSSB 11(FIN) was born.   Senator Therriault noted that                                                               
most of  Alaska's children, at the  age of six, are  in some sort                                                               
of school whether it be a  home school, private school, or public                                                               
school.   He  estimated that  1-2 percent  of parents  choose not                                                               
enroll  their  children  until age  seven.    Senator  Therriault                                                               
stressed that  adding subsection  (c) doesn't impact  the current                                                               
subsection (b), which includes a  lengthy list of reasons why one                                                               
could keep their child from attending a public school.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Number 2049                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR BUNDE pointed  out that much research is  pointing out [the                                                               
benefits]  of early  education.   However, he  understood Senator                                                               
Therriault to  have found that  [some Alaskans] are  resistant to                                                               
taking advantage of early learning opportunities.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  THERRIAULT  said  that   most  children  in  Alaska  are                                                               
enrolled in Kindergarten  at age 5.  Although  the statutes don't                                                               
require  education  of  young   children,  many  districts  offer                                                               
programs for children who need  help getting up to speed [before]                                                               
entering  the regular  school system.    This legislation  merely                                                               
says that  if one  chooses to  put their child  in school  at age                                                               
six, then the  parent must make a good faith  effort to get their                                                               
child to school on a regular basis.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR   BUNDE  related,   from   his  wife's   experience  as   a                                                               
Kindergarten teacher, that many people  "push and fudge with that                                                               
date" so that their child can start Kindergarten [early].                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Number 2120                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GUESS requested  that Senator  Therriault discuss                                                               
what happens when a parent decides to withdraw their child.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  THERRIAULT  pointed out  that  there  are truancy  laws.                                                               
Therefore, if  a child was enrolled  in public school at  age six                                                               
and that  child didn't  attend school, then  that child  would be                                                               
[in  violation] of  the truancy  laws.   In  further response  to                                                               
Representative   Guess,   Senator   Therriault   explained   that                                                               
currently  a six-year-old  enrolled in  public school  could come                                                               
[as  often  or as  little]  as  the parent  wanted.    In such  a                                                               
situation there  was nothing that  the district could  do because                                                               
the child didn't have to be present until the following year.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GUESS  posed a situation  in which  a six-year-old                                                               
begins first  grade, but  the parents then  decide it's  not best                                                               
for the child.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  THERRIAULT  related  his  belief  that  a  parent  could                                                               
utilize  one  of the  options  listed  under subsection  (b)  and                                                               
[withdraw their child].                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  BUNDE  viewed  SB  11   as  merely  expanding  the  social                                                               
contract.    He  remarked  that there  is  a  difference  between                                                               
withdrawing a child and a child having sporadic attendance.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR THERRIAULT pointed out that  sporadic attendance not only                                                               
impacts the  child who is  sporadically attending class,  but the                                                               
other students in the class as well.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Number 2270                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
JOHN ALCANTRA, Government  Relations Director, National Education                                                               
Association  - Alaska  (NEA-AK),  testified in  support of  [CSSB
11(FIN)].   Mr. Alcantra,  as a parent  of a  Kindergartner, told                                                               
the  committee  that there  is  a  strong correlation  between  a                                                               
child's  attendance and  the child's  ability  to keep  up.   Mr.                                                               
Alcantra viewed this legislation as positive.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Number 2332                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
DEBBIE  OSSIANDER,  Legislative  Chair, Anchorage  School  Board,                                                               
testified in  support of  SB 11,  in its  original version.   The                                                               
committee  substitute  (CS)  considerably weakens  the  bill,  he                                                               
said.  [The Anchorage School  Board] believes that the compulsory                                                               
education age should be age six.   She pointed out that there are                                                               
high standards  and expectations  for reading, writing,  and math                                                               
for children age  five to seven.  Young children  are expected to                                                               
learn to  read, distinguish between  common genres of  text, know                                                               
basic  phonics, and  write complete  stories with  paragraphs and                                                               
sentence structure.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
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MS. OSSIANDER continued by pointing  out that seven-year-olds are                                                               
required to be familiar with  simple addition and subtraction and                                                               
recognize and  understand the  concept of  fractions.   She noted                                                               
her appreciation  of Chair  Bunde's comments  with regard  to the                                                               
solid data  that highlights the  importance of  early educational                                                               
experiences  for  children.   Ms.  Ossiander  related  that  [the                                                               
board] feels that  children entering the system at  age seven are                                                               
at  a  disadvantage.    This last  year,  [the  Anchorage  School                                                               
District  had] 50  seven-year-olds enter  the system  without any                                                               
prior school experience.   Such children are  difficult to place.                                                               
Ms.  Ossiander said  that the  state should  recognize that  six-                                                               
year-olds  should be  in some  kind  of educational  environment.                                                               
Therefore, Ms.  Ossiander urged  the committee  to return  to the                                                               
original bill, SB 11.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR BUNDE remarked,  "I hate to lose the good  in search of the                                                               
perfect."   There  being no  one else  wishing to  testify, Chair                                                               
Bunde closed public testimony.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Number 2302                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GUESS  moved  to   report  CSSB  11(FIN)  out  of                                                               
committee  with individual  recommendations and  the accompanying                                                               
zero fiscal  note.   There being no  objection, CSSB  11(FIN) was                                                               
reported from the House Special Committee on Education.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                

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